Джон Колтрейн!

[Nikolai Shienok]

[Dmitri_K]

ого )) знатно )

прошу прощения- я как-то пропустил- а какой религии сам Колтрейн был приверженцем?

[Владислав «vvb5p»]

Может соберем подписи о канонизации

[Nikolai Shienok]

Может соберем подписи о канонизации

Это уже давно сделано, и канонизация состоялась...

At the Pantheon of Jazz, a Musical Ministry

By Evelyn Nieves
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, March 27, 2006; A02

SAN FRANCISCO -- A sudden rain barraged the Fillmore District. People were ducking its assault, racing past the church of St. John Coltrane without a glance.

It did not look good for Sunday services. Noon arrived, 12:10, 12:15. The church, no bigger than an average living room, was still nearly empty. It was new to this location, a storefront with mini-blinds and one small sign -- "Coltrane Lives." Maybe worshipers couldn't find it.

But it turns out they did. They made it in, eventually, trickling in wet until the first church ever to claim the late jazz saxophonist as its patron saint was packed. Regulars sat in the front; newcomers sat, and stood, in the back. Erinne Johnson, a young church "Sister of Compassion" in a hooded sweat shirt and jeans, picked up a microphone. "You're welcome to stay as long as you like," she announced, because no doubt there were people who had no idea how long the service might last.

Everyone knew the obvious: The church of St. John Coltrane, officially, the St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church -- is a house of worship like no other. Known worldwide and written up in tourist guides, it attracts the kind of mixed crowd -- all races, colors, nationalities and creeds -- that most churches cannot even imagine. Not to mention that these days, when Christian rock is big business, a church that plays a jazz virtuoso's tunes as a path to enlightenment doesn't seem so odd -- it seems visionary.

Still, like independent churches all over, this one has struggled to stay alive. The church, which has been providing hot vegetarian meals for the hungry for nearly four decades, has always scraped to get by. In 2000, during the dot-com boom that turned so much of San Francisco into a playground for New Money, the church was forced to move from its tiny storefront near Haight-Ashbury to make way for a cafe. All it could afford was an out-of-the-way spot that almost made people forget it was alive.

Its newest temporary home -- the church has a three-year lease -- is in the heart of the Fillmore, once known as "Harlem West." Jazz and blues clubs took root and flourished here, and though only vestiges of the old neighborhood remain, a big new jazz center is in the works that city officials hope will return the Fillmore District to its old form.

Last Sunday's service was typical: lots of music and listening. "The first part of our service is quiet meditation," said Johnson, as a boombox on the floor played "John Coltrane Live at the Village Vanguard."

The house-band members took their places in front of a seven-foot-tall Byzantine-style painting of Coltrane holding a saxophone with flames coming from it. Bishop Franzo King, in white robes with a fuchsia skullcap and cummerbund, took a seat in front of a conga drum, his soprano sax in hand.

The congregation was alert with anticipation.

King, a former hairdresser who started the church in 1971, has been telling the story of how he had a spiritual experience during a 1965 Coltrane concert in San Francisco. (He was officially ordained a bishop in 1982 by the African Orthodox Church, which also officially acknowledged Coltrane as a saint.) Coltrane, who died in 1967 of liver cancer at age 40, had been a heroin addict, but he had devoted his last 10 years to using his music as an homage to God. King's church tries to do the same -- the liturgy includes two hours of music from Coltrane's late period, with proper due to Coltrane's 1964 "A Love Supreme" album.

About 90 minutes into the service, King rose to deliver the sermon. Tall, thin and youthful-looking, King, 60, blended Catholic prayer with an earnest lesson about finding one's way to God. He also, as always, had to explain to the newbies that the church finds its inspiration in Coltrane's spiritual awakening, as reflected in his music. He noted the prayer and the offering to God in the liner notes of "A Love Supreme."

Children of church members wandered up and down the aisles throughout the service. Musicians slipped in with their trumpets and saxophones. King's wife, Marina, known as the Rev. Mother Marina, led the church choir. His oldest daughter, Wanika Stephens, played the bass. Son Franzo King Jr. performed a tenor saxophone solo.

Other musicians joined the band onstage.

"We wanted to stress to people that we are not here to entertain you," Stephens said later. The mother in her thirties is host of a weekly radio show on the local public station, KPOO, that plays four hours of Coltrane music. "We do know that people are entertained, but we hope they are moved spiritually."

They certainly seem compelled to stay. As the band jammed, the audience stood and clapped. More people slipped in the door. A young man came in with a tambourine. Sister Johnson ushered him in. No, she told him, you're not too late. The band was still jamming. It was nearly 4 p.m.

[wolk_off]

Это уже давно сделано, и канонизация состоялась...

Интересно, что эта самая Африканская Православная церковь, канонизировавшая Св. Иоанна Воля-Аз-Есмь (Will-I-Am) Колтрейна, по вероучению при этом - католическая и числится среди "католических церквей восточного обряда", вроде украинской греко-католической (униатской).

[Nikolai Shienok]

А сам Колтрейн при этом еще серьезно интересовался Каббалой и буддизмом, а также практиковал медитацию...

[Владислав «vvb5p»]

Постмодерн-эклектик, как есть

[KёyN]

vvb5p
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Постмодерн-эклектик, как есть
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Ну почему же... схожие идеи есть во всех трех. Тем паче если подходить не с теологической позиции, а относиться - творчески.
А так - раздобыть иконку бы.
И вострубили черные ангелы в свои трубы цвета рассветных солнечных лучей - и родился джаз
здорова!!!!!!!!

Nikolai Shienok
Спасиба за статью.

[Nikolai Shienok]

Постмодерн-эклектик, как есть

Нет, это не эклектика, и совсем не постмодернизм (он еще тогда не родился). Это, скорее, пример воплощения в жизнь экуменических идеалов.

[Zixel]

Так икона настоящая??? Это не прикол? Гдеб намыть её плакат =)

[Сюрреалист]

Может уберем это? Колтрейн был хорошим музыкантом, сделал много чего хорошего для музыки и может быть для религии, но НЕ БОЛЕЕ.

[Владислав «vvb5p»]

Сюрреалист
я за модерирование пантеона святых не возьмусь

[Сюрреалист]

St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church

Интересно, а самому музыканту понравилось бы, что его именем назвали церковь? Не так уж он много сделал и не таким уж великим был.

...former hairdresser who started the church in 1971

Как это было сказано: не сотвори себе кумира. Больно читать, что такоя ярый христианин забыл об этом.

[Nikolai Shienok]

Этот диск, наверное, - самый редкий в моей коллекции (когда же его, наконец, переиздадут на компакте???):



John Coltrane/John McLaughlin - Past Lives (Columbia, 1442, Japan limited ed.)

1. Joy of India
2. Lost Planets
3. Building Bridges
4. Birds of Fire
5. Sunrise
6. Fade Out
7. Fade-In
8. Naima

John Coltrane, tenot sax
John McLaughlin, guitars
Larry Young, organ and synthesizers
Elvin Jones, drums

[СЛ]

Это шутка? про Колтрейна с Маклафлином? Первое апреля?

[Muzifan]

Вчера это было на полном серьёзе, сегодня - уже шутка, увы...

[Nikolai Shienok]

Просто вчера я увидел эту пластинку во сне...

[СЛ]

ага блин.. а я бросился в поиск, как дурак...

кстати, не уверен, что в 67 году (например) МакКл уже представлял из себя достаточно интересную личность - для того, чтобы играть с Колтрейном.. А если представлять себе сказочную ситуацию после 1967 г., who knows...

глупая ремарка: интересно, чтобы играл Колтрейн, если бы не умер - через 10, 20 лет..

(Аfter the Rain - люблю)

[Nikolai Shienok]

... кстати, не уверен, что в 67 году (например) МакКл уже представлял из себя достаточно интересную личность - для того, чтобы играть с Колтрейном..

Кто знает... Мне, например, кажется, что представлял... если судить, например, по этому диску:



Danny Thompson Live 1967 featuring John McLaughlin and Tony Roberts -Collectors Series Vol. 1 (WHAT3CD, 1999).

Кстати, на нем они играют "Наиму" Колтрейна. А уже через год с небольшим (в 1969) появится Extrapolation...

[Nikolai Shienok]

Сегодня (23 сентября) Колтрейну исполнилось бы 80...

Вот уже почти 40 лет прошло с тех пор, как он переселился в лучший из миров, а музыка его в нашем мире всё звучит и звучит. И это есть хорошо.

[Владислав «vvb5p»]

Послушал пару rip'ов с винила:
John Coltrane Quartet
That Dynamic Jazz Duo!
(Birdland, Nyc, February 9, 1962)



John Coltrane (ss, ts)
Eric Dolphy (as, bcl, fl)
McCoy Tyner (p)
Jimmy Garrison (b)
Elvin Jones (d)

Mr. P.C.
Miles' Mode (aka The Red Planet)
My Favorite Things

** also issued on Session Disc 114 entitled "Hooray For John Coltrane": Affinity (E) AFF 79 entitled "John Coltrane Live At Birdland Featuring Eric Dolphy".

Великолепная пластинка, передающая атмосферу джаза (или даже так - Джаза). Занятно наблюдать контраст стилей мастеров - Долфи и Колтрейна. Особенно противостояние наблюдается в пьесе MrPC. Качество низкое, но оттого еще более очаровывающей становится пластинка.

John Coltrane Quartet
Impassioned Tenor Man

John Coltrane (ss, ts)
McCoy Tyner (p)
Jimmy Garrison (b)
Elvin Jones (d)

"Birdland", NYC, June 2, 1962
My Favorite Things (Cousin Mary)
Body And Soul

"Birdland", NYC, March 2, 1963
Mr. P.C. (Interpretations)
My Favorite Things (March 2nd On The Books)

Здесь меня невероятно затронуло исполнение пьесы My Favorite Things - огромной силы вещь!
Имеются эти записи в сжатом виде и если хотите ознакомления - пишите

[Mr. Spooky]

vvb5p

А вот наконец-то и мне стали интересны эти записи Можешь выложить?

[Владислав «vvb5p»]

Mr. Spooky, Вам сюда

[Lord Ahriman]

Я тоже очень хочу послушать эти темы. Не могли бы вы выложить? Плиз.

[Владислав «vvb5p»]

Никто не в курсе, что за пластинки The House That Trane Built: Story of Impulse Records вот тут про него обзор

• CD1: Where Flamingos Fly (Gil Evans); Stolen Moments (Oliver Nelson); Greensleeves (John Coltrane); Alamode (Art Blakely); Honeysuckle Rose (Benny Carter); Trey Of Hearts (Count Basie); Samba Para Bean (Coleman Hawkins); Too Young To Go Steady (John Coltrane); Snap Crackle (Roy Haynes); Chocolate Shake (Freddie Hubbard); Impressions (John Coltrane); Theme From Lester Young (Aka Goodbye Pork Pie Hat) (Charles Mingus).
  
  CD2: My One And Only Love (John Coltrane); Salt And Pepper (Sonny Stitt); Forest Flower (Sunrise/Forest Flower (Sunset (Chico Hamilton); T 'N' A Blues (McCoy Tyner); Someone To Watch Over Me (Ben Webster); Sister Mamie (Yusef Lateef); A Love Supreme: Part 1 (Acknowledgement (John Coltrane); Rapid Shave (Shirley Scott); Los Olvidados (Archie Shepp); Ask Me Now! (Pee Wee Russell).
  
  CD3: Black And Tan Fantasy (Earl Hines); Alfie's Theme (Sonny Rollins); Spanish Rice (Clark Terry); Mama Too Tight (Archie Shepp); Gypsy Queen (Gabor Szabo); Larry Of Arabia (Chico Hamilton); Our Prayer (Albert Ayler); Offering (John Coltrane); Journey Is Satchidananda (Alice Coltrane); War Orphans (Charlie Haden).
  
  CD4: Stolen Moments (Ahmad Jamal); The Creator Has A Master Plan (Pharoah Sanders); India (Gato Barbieri); The Rich (And The Poor) (Keith Jarrett); Hard Work (John Handy); Walk With Me (Alice Coltrane).
  
  Personnel: Albert Ayler; Gato Barbieri; Count Basie; Art Blakey; Benny Carter; John Coltrane; Alice Coltrane; Gil Evans; Charlie Haden; Chico Hamilton; John Handy; Coleman Hawkins; Roy Haynes; Earl Hines; Freddie Hubbard; Ahmad Jamal ; Keith Jarrett; Yusef Lateef; Charles Mingus; Oliver Nelson; Sonny Rollins; Pee Wee Russell; Pharoah Sanders; Shirley Scott; Archie Shepp; Sonny Stitt; Gabor Szabo; Clark Terry; McCoy Tyner; Ben Webster; others.

Больше похоже на сборную солянку со спекуляцией на имени святого.